More follow up relating to this post.
"I have no functions in common with my parents. I’m an ENTJ, mother’s an ENTP, father’s an INTP. My grandmothers have more similar functions to me - one’s an ISFP, the other is an ISTJ. I’ve considered that I could be an xNTP, but I know for a fact I use Te, and it’s my dominant function because I’m an extrovert, so really that takes that those types out." - dirkedstrider
"You asked earlier about people having different functions than their parents, well my mother is an ENTJ and my father is an ISTP, yet I’m an ENFJ. With my brother as an ENTJ as well, I have no idea where my Fe came from, but even though it can get frustrating at times with communication, I am thankful for it." - teatimeforhatter
Two words: Robin Williams. :(
Everyone faces depression at some point in their lives, but some people are especially prone to it. My dad believes that the more sensitive you are to the harsh realities of life, the more inclined toward depression you are. I guess you could call it “sensitivity,” but not in a woe-is-me sensitivity so much as this world is crap. This isn’t how the world should be. There shouldn’t be pain and suffering, but there is. There shouldn’t be cruelty and abuse, but there is. We long for a better place, but this life is all we have. Make the most of it.
One of my favorite, but also the saddest, episodes of Doctor Who is the one where Amy and the Doctor go back in time and visit Vincent van Gough (ISFP), who suffered from intense bipolar depression. He would be fine one moment, and in the depths of despair the next. His despair both stemmed from rejection of his work, and his internal pain, which prevented him from doing the thing that made him the most happy — painting. The real tearjerker moment comes when they take Vincent forward in time, to see an exhibition at the London Museum all about HIS paintings, and he can see the immense impact his work has had on generations of artists. He is the “favorite” artist of the museum curator. His life, which while he lived it, seemed so small, so unimportant, and so worthless, actually had a much larger impact than he could ever imagine.
Yours does too. No one walks in this world without leaving footprints in it, but it’s our choice as to what our footprints will be. Depression wants to steal those possibilities away from us and prevent us from making a difference in our world. Of course, we can’t change history, so Vincent did not live instead of die, much to Amy’s devastation, but imagine how much MORE he could have done, had he stayed. Depression is an absence of joy and a desire not to live, out of the belief that you are worthless, but you are not worthless. You are leaving footprints in the sand, and in the hearts of the people around you.
For whatever reason, depression seems to hit the NPs the hardest. Maybe because Ne is such a far-reaching function that it looks so wide in its scope, and sees all of history and time at once, collectively. Dwell on that too long (oh, hey, history sucked… and right now sucks too… and look, humanity has always treated other people like crap, and that’s not likely to change anytime soon!) and it’s… well, depressing. Of course, the nice thing about NFPs is that they can take their pain and turn it into beautiful things… music… lyrics… art… novels…
The drawback of being a Fi, of course, is that all your emotions are internalized and intense. They fill you up until you want to overflow… and if you don’t share it in some way through your Ne or Te you will want to make it all stop. Fe users have it easier than you, in this regard, because Fe can go up to someone else and say, “I hate my life right now, and I need you to help me not take this bottle of pills.” Fe feels better after talking through their feelings and getting outside emotional support. Fi never reaches that point, so to beat depression, YOU MUST BE ABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR FEELINGS THROUGH YOUR NE.
If you are feeling suicidal, tell someone. GET HELP.
Sometimes, anti-depressants can help. Consider taking them.
Ultimately, what happens in your life is up to you, and you have an enormously creative function at your disposal. Instead of using it to think of all the reasons why you hate your life, use it to create. Design. Paint. Dance. Write. Get those bad feelings out of your body. Write them all down in a journal and burn it at midnight under a full moon, while wearing a raincoat and fez if you want. Just get rid of it.
In the process, you may create something devastatingly beautiful.
ENFPs especially need to have a greater life purpose. Find that something you care about most in the entire world, and pursue it with all your heart. Use your bombastic personality to recruit others of a similar mind and make a difference for the greater good. Sometimes, all the enormous problems of the world and our own past pains can be forgotten underneath the happiness of knowing you have done one thing to make one person’s (or animal’s) life better.
Generally, people who use the same functions get along better with those who don’t, because we can relate since we use the same functions, and we understand how one another processes information even if we don’t do it in exactly the same way. Our subconscious mind draws us to people we “understand” (Te? Fi? Ne? Si?) and who share similar traits.
Because our inferior function is also our “relaxed” function (we can activate it badly in a time of stress, or go to it to have fun), our functions in reverse can be fun to hang out with. ENFP - Ne-Fi-Te-Si and ISTJ - Si-Te-Fi-Ne have opposite dominant and inferior functions, so the ISTJ can build their Ne and enjoy theorizing with an ENFP, who can in turn strengthen their enjoyment of the past by associating with the ISTJ’s dominant Si.
Everyone has two extroverted and two introverted functions for reasons of mental balance.
If you had all introverted functions, you would be completely delusional and outside of reality, because your extroverted functions are your “information gathering” functions… based in your actual environment.
Introverted functions are subjective, meaning they differ from person to person and originate inside that individual. They are influenced by personal views and opinions, which means if they do not use their extroverted function to access reality when they are forming an opinion, the introverted function will be outside of reality… aka, delusional. Not living in reality.
The way they are stacked ensures that we at least have one foot in reality at all times, because to access another introverted function, it has to pass through an extroverted (reality and environment-based) function.
If you were an extrovert with only extroverted functions, you would never internally process anything and never reach a moral (Fi) or rational (Ti) judgement on it. You would have no connection to your inner self and therefore be just as delusional.
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Six is quick at problem solving, and always silently takes the fastest, most logical approach to any problem, be that blowing a hole in a school or burning a building down. She prefers to remain emotionally distant and make all her decisions based on logic, without allowing her emotions to influence her. Four and others find her cold at times, but she is always rational.
Extroverted Sensing (Se): She has a tendency to want to live a fast-paced lifestyle, and is drawn to dangerous activities and hobbies, which include driving a motorcycle (fast) and bursting in where she may or may not be wanted. Six is fast, her reflexes are amazing, and she pays attention to her surroundings, in order to stay alive, help her “friends” out of binds, and generally just have a good time despite being chased by evil aliens from another planet.
Introverted Intuition (Ni): Her instincts are rarely wrong. Six turns up when she’s needed, where she’s needed, with little information to go on. She sizes people up accurately and has a strong internal pull that helps her know where to focus her energy. Six develops a long-term goal that helps keep her centered and focused as she speeds through life.
Extroverted Feeling (Fe): Even though she isn’t all that emotive, Six cares about what happens as a result of their decisions and the impact it might have on humanity. She doesn’t much go in for sap but is supportive of her friends and determined to protect them at any cost… for the greater good, of course.
Introverted Feeling (Fi): Cinna seeks to set his art apart from everyone else, and give it personal significance. He is rarely emotive of his own emotions, but highly supportive of Katniss, always ready to offer her encouragement and affirmation. Cinna has a defiant streak, too, as is shown in his careful design of the wedding gown transforming into a Mockingjay; even though he knows it isn’t wise, he still defies the Capitol and aligns with Katniss and the Resistance through that action, which sadly leads to his death. But he died for a cause he believed in.
Extroverted Sensing (Se): He has an immense love of beauty and enjoys life in the Capitol, where he can mingle in a world full of experiences. Cinna notices things about his tributes that others don’t, and chooses to enhance their strongest and best features. He seeks to be dynamic and unforgettable, to have his costumes stand out amid the many others. He can also be a bit reckless when driven by emotional fervor, in defying President Snow non verbally.
Introverted Intuition (Ni): His insights into other tributes, the true nature of the Games, and even into Katniss herself are brilliant, and his instincts are never wrong. Katniss relies greatly on his advice and support throughout her trials. Cinna foresees problems and possibilities and plans for them accordingly; he also develops a long-term vision for his tributes that includes re-imagining their district from an artistic perspective (fire, instead of coal).
Extroverted Thinking (Te): His decisions are absolute and he comfortably takes charge of his responsibilities; he is able to organize his time and his assistants to accomplish what he sets out to do, in a reasonable amount of time.
There comes a time in everyone’s life where they need (and want) help.
I am buried under requests and the television shows in particular take me a long time to do, because you can’t often get a character’s type based off of just one episode. (That’s why if you request a movie, I usually do it quickly — unless it’s still in theaters and living in The Absolute Middle of Nowhere, I don’t have the energy to go see it.)
I am accepting submissions, from anyone who knows what they are doing. In other words, people who understand the functions and how they interact and how to spot and explain them in the manner that I do (giving examples of all the functions and how the character uses them).
Here is the current request list. If you wish to help me avoid a nervous breakdown and enable me to maybe watch something I actually want to watch once in awhile rather than something someone has requested without feeling guilt for being so selfish as to watch something not on the list, please consider helping me out.
All I ask is that you let me know before submitting (a) character(s) as posts which characters and/or shows you are working on, so I don’t wind up with two volunteers working on the same thing at the same time. The perks are.. you get to be famous. Or at least, there’s a chance the 4,000+ followers that stalk this blog might think you’re a genius. Or not. Whatever.
I posted and/or answered a lot of stuff today and five minutes later, had another half dozen things to either post or respond to in my inbox, so anything sent in today will be answered tomorrow. I wrote 4,500 words on my novel this morning and spent all afternoon attending to this tumblr, so I am frankly exhausted and about to go collapse and let my brain rot for a few hours in front of the television.
Hey, I could watch… no, I need to fill requests….
HAHAHAHA, GUILT TRIP.
How does tertiary manifest in life?
Well, your top two functions say, oooh, let’s do or say this and your tertiary function goes:
Because it isn’t a dominant or secondary function, your tertiary function is “less mature” than your other two higher functions, which means you either don’t have very good control over it or are uncomfortable with using it until you focus on developing it better. It can be a function used for good in your life, or for evil, self-destructive, self-doubting, in-a-rut behavior. It also manifests very differently for extroverts vs. introverts, for obvious reasons (two extroverted functions, or two introverted functions, screaming for your attention at once).
It works thus:
ENXJs: Se can either say, “I’m going to devote a lot of time and energy to looking good, and I’m going to take opportunities as I see them that help me reach my goals” (good) or “I’m going to engage in reckless, self-destructive, pleasure-seeking behavior!” (bad).
ESTJs: Ne can either say “possibilities exist outside my opinion and experiences and I am interested in exploring them” (good) or “I can’t make up my mind, because I keep thinking of things I hadn’t thought of a minute ago!” (bad).
EXFPs: Te can either say “I’m going to organize that space and motivate others into action!” (good) or “I am going to force my will upon unsuspecting minions and be OCD about my shelves!” (bad).
EXTPs: Fe can either say “I’m going to soften my words so as not to offend other people, and stand up for them” (good) or “I’m going to use my ability to read other people so I can manipulate them for my own evil purposes!” (bad).
IXFJs: Ti can either say “I love analyzing things, to figure out how to help others and better understand myself!” (good) or “I am going to be super critical of everything and question absolutely everything, in the process ticking people off!” (bad).
IXTJs: Fi can either say “I am going to devote a lot of time and energy to causes with personal significance to me” (good) or “I’m going to be a selfish ass and say whatever I think, regardless of how it makes other people feel” (bad).
ISXPs: Ni can either say “I’m excited about developing a future vision for my life and working toward it” (good) or “I am going to get so totally focused on the vision I have for the future that I’m going to neglect everything else in my life” (bad).
INXPs: Si can either say “partaking in traditions is a lot of fun, and I enjoy storing up information” (good) or “I refuse to try anything new, because sameness is good enough for me!” (bad).
I think all the introverted feeling artistic personalities are drawn to some form of self-expression, either through their stories, their art, or physical performances. The things they value, they invest their time in and become proud of. They create more for themselves than other people, but others benefit from the result, so yes, I would say that many of them would be drawn to performance arts, if for no other reason than they enjoy it. :)
The general consensus (by “them,” the collective “they,” but who “they” actually are, no one knows… we simply accept “their” word as fact) seems to be that the parents’ MBTI types blend and equal child’s types, but I don’t think it’s IMPOSSIBLE for them to have a child of a totally different type.
I dunno, anyone out there have different functions than either of their parents?